{"id":137,"date":"2018-05-23T04:10:02","date_gmt":"2018-05-23T02:10:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/?p=137"},"modified":"2025-08-26T21:29:39","modified_gmt":"2025-08-26T19:29:39","slug":"8-images-usages-et-mesusages-dalexandre-le-grand-avec-pierre-briant","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/index.php\/2018\/05\/23\/8-images-usages-et-mesusages-dalexandre-le-grand-avec-pierre-briant\/","title":{"rendered":"8. Images, usages et m\u00e9susages d&#8217;Alexandre le grand, avec Pierre Briant"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" \n    style=\"margin: auto; min-width: 320px; border: 0;\" \n    src=\"https:\/\/player.audiomeans.fr\/player-v2\/paroles-d-histoire-0619098d0e45\/episodes\/2236ac89-f20e-4763-87b7-dae13ec04d26?mp=0&#038;leadin=0&#038;download=1&#038;std=0&#038;vert=0&#038;playlist=0&#038;color=7d7d7d&#038;theme=dark\" \n    width=\"80%\"\n    height=\"150px\"\n    allow=\"autoplay\"><br \/>\n<\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"http:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/index.php\/2018\/05\/23\/7-darius-alexandre-le-grand-et-lempire-perse-avec-pierre-briant\/\">Cliquer ici<\/a> pour acc\u00e9der au premier volet de l\u2019entretien.<\/em><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>L\u2019invit\u00e9\u00a0: <\/strong>Pierre Briant, professeur \u00e9m\u00e9rite au Coll\u00e8ge de France (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.college-de-france.fr\/site\/pierre-briant\/\">chaire d&#8217;Histoire et civilisation du monde ach\u00e9m\u00e9nide et de l&#8217;empire d&#8217;Alexandre<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Les livres\u00a0:<br \/>\n<\/strong>&#8211;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.fayard.fr\/histoire-de-lempire-perse-9782213596679\"><em>Histoire de l\u2019empire perse<\/em><\/a>, Paris, Fayard, 1996.<br \/>\n&#8211;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.fayard.fr\/darius-dans-lombre-dalexandre-9782213609010\"><em>Darius dans l\u2019ombre d\u2019Alexandre<\/em><\/a>, Paris, Fayard, 2003.<br \/>\n&#8211;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.actes-sud.fr\/catalogue\/essai-document\/lettre-ouverte-alexandre-le-grand\"><em>Lettre ouverte \u00e0 Alexandre le grand<\/em><\/a>, Arles, Actes sud, 2008.<br \/>\n&#8211;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gallimard.fr\/Catalogue\/GALLIMARD\/NRF-Essais\/Alexandre-des-Lumieres\"><em>Alexandre des Lumi\u00e8res<\/em><\/a>, Paris, Gallimard, NRF essais, 2012.<br \/>\n<em>&#8211;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gallimard.fr\/Catalogue\/GALLIMARD\/Folio\/Folio-histoire\/Alexandre\">Alexandre. Ex\u00e9g\u00e8se des lieux communs<\/a><\/em>, Paris, Gallimard, \u00ab\u00a0Folio histoire\u00a0\u00bb, 2016.<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-135\" src=\"http:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/BANNER-1024x419.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"840\" height=\"344\" srcset=\"https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/BANNER-1024x419.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/BANNER-300x123.jpg 300w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/BANNER-768x315.jpg 768w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/BANNER-1200x492.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/BANNER.jpg 1460w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>La discussion\u00a0: <\/strong>comment les Perses se sont appropri\u00e9s et ont r\u00e9invent\u00e9 Alexandre \/ Iskender sous un double visage, via le <em>Roman d&#8217;Alexandre<\/em> (1\u2019), comment, \u00e0 l\u2019inverse, il a \u00e9t\u00e9 utilis\u00e9 par les Byzantins et comme pr\u00e9curseur des croisades (7\u201920), Alexandre mobilis\u00e9 dans la querelle politique contemporaine entre Gr\u00e8ce et \u00ab\u00a0Mac\u00e9doine\u00a0\u00bb, Ath\u00e8nes et Skopje, et les origines du conflit (10\u201910), les jugements des dirigeants et historiens nazis sur le conqu\u00e9rant et sa politique (17\u201940), Alexandre h\u00e9ros colonisateur et civilisateur dans l\u2019historiographie fran\u00e7aise et britannique au d\u00e9but du XXe si\u00e8cle selon un mod\u00e8le l\u00e9gu\u00e9 par Plutarque (20\u201955), l\u2019importance de Johann Gustav Droysen (1808-1884) pour l\u2019historiographie d\u2019Alexandre (25\u201915), Alexandre d\u00e9peint du c\u00f4t\u00e9 des colonis\u00e9s, et afin de s\u2019\u00e9manciper, dans l\u2019Inde britannique (28\u2019), le film d\u2019Oliver Stone, <em>Alexandre<\/em> (2004), et ses angles morts (32\u2019), quels choix documentaires les enseignants peuvent faire pour enseigner l\u2019histoire d\u2019Alexandre et de l\u2019empire perse (36\u201950).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Les r\u00e9f\u00e9rences cit\u00e9es dans le podcast\u00a0:<br \/>\n<\/strong>Johann Chapoutot, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.puf.com\/content\/Le_nazisme_et_lAntiquit%C3%A9\"><em>Le nazisme et l\u2019antiquit\u00e9<\/em><\/a>, Paris, PUF, \u00ab\u00a0Quadrige\u00a0\u00bb, 2012.<br \/>\nP. Briant, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.persee.fr\/doc\/palla_0031-0387_1986_hos_1_1_1165\">\u00ab\u00a0Alexandre et les \u00ab Katarraktes \u00bb du Tigre\u00a0\u00bb<\/a>, <em>Pallas. Revue d&#8217;\u00e9tudes antiques<\/em>, Ann\u00e9e 1986<br \/>\nP. Briant, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.persee.fr\/doc\/dha_0755-7256_1979_num_5_1_1395\">\u00ab Imp\u00e9rialisme antique et id\u00e9ologie coloniale dans la France contemporaine : Alexandre mod\u00e8le colonial \u00bb<\/a>, <em>Dialogues d\u2019histoire ancienne<\/em>, 5 (1979), p. 283-29<br \/>\nJ. G. Droysen, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.deutschestextarchiv.de\/book\/show\/droysen_alexander_1833\"><em>Geschichte Alexanders des Gro\u00dfen<\/em><\/a>, Hambourg, Perthes, 1833.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Films cit\u00e9s dans le podcast:<br \/>\n<\/strong>Le film <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=PL5hvaBgD0o\"><em>Sikandar<\/em> de Sorhab Modi<\/a> (1941)<strong><br \/>\n<\/strong>L\u2019entr\u00e9e d\u2019<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=VsnVi1Gid_I\">Alexandre \u00e0 Babylone<\/a> dans le film d\u2019Oliver Stone (2004) ; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lemonde.fr\/archives\/article\/2005\/01\/06\/alexandre-le-grand-heros-civilisateur-par-pierre-briant_393159_1819218.html\">regard critique<\/a> par P. Briant sur le film<strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Les documents cit\u00e9s dans le podcast\u00a0:<br \/>\n<\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/remacle.org\/bloodwolf\/historiens\/Plutarque\/fortunealex.htm\">Plutarque<\/a>, <em>De fortuna alexandri <\/em>(IIe s. ap. J-C)<br \/>\nLe <a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/Category:Alexander_sarcophagus_in_the_Istanbul_Archaeological_Museums\">\u00ab\u00a0sarcophage d\u2019Alexandre\u00a0\u00bb<\/a> au Mus\u00e9e d\u2019Istanbul<br \/>\nTablette astronomique babylonienne (extrait des p. 166-167 de P. Briant, <em>Alexandre, de la Gr\u00e8ce \u00e0 l&#8217;Inde<\/em>, Gallimard, &#8220;D\u00e9couvertes&#8221;, 2004) :<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft  wp-image-146\" src=\"http:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Photo-24-05-2018-15-28-32-423x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"380\" height=\"920\" srcset=\"https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Photo-24-05-2018-15-28-32-423x1024.jpg 423w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Photo-24-05-2018-15-28-32-124x300.jpg 124w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Photo-24-05-2018-15-28-32-768x1858.jpg 768w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Photo-24-05-2018-15-28-32-1200x2903.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Photo-24-05-2018-15-28-32.jpg 1601w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 380px) 85vw, 380px\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-147 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/br2-366x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"366\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/br2-366x1024.jpg 366w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/br2-107x300.jpg 107w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/br2-768x2148.jpg 768w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/br2-1200x3356.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/br2.jpg 1385w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 366px) 85vw, 366px\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-148 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Photo-24-05-2018-15-28-44-870x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"355\" height=\"417\" srcset=\"https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Photo-24-05-2018-15-28-44-870x1024.jpg 870w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Photo-24-05-2018-15-28-44-255x300.jpg 255w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Photo-24-05-2018-15-28-44-768x904.jpg 768w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Photo-24-05-2018-15-28-44-1200x1412.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Photo-24-05-2018-15-28-44.jpg 1333w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 355px) 85vw, 355px\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cliquer ici pour acc\u00e9der au premier volet de l\u2019entretien. L\u2019invit\u00e9\u00a0: Pierre Briant, professeur \u00e9m\u00e9rite au Coll\u00e8ge de France (chaire d&#8217;Histoire et civilisation du monde ach\u00e9m\u00e9nide et de l&#8217;empire d&#8217;Alexandre) Les livres\u00a0: &#8211;Histoire de l\u2019empire perse, Paris, Fayard, 1996. &#8211;Darius dans l\u2019ombre d\u2019Alexandre, Paris, Fayard, 2003. &#8211;Lettre ouverte \u00e0 Alexandre le grand, Arles, Actes sud, 2008. &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/index.php\/2018\/05\/23\/8-images-usages-et-mesusages-dalexandre-le-grand-avec-pierre-briant\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;8. 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