{"id":1770,"date":"2021-09-02T03:30:28","date_gmt":"2021-09-02T01:30:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/?p=1770"},"modified":"2021-09-01T10:41:07","modified_gmt":"2021-09-01T08:41:07","slug":"209-lordinaire-de-la-saint-barthelemy-avec-jeremie-foa","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/index.php\/2021\/09\/02\/209-lordinaire-de-la-saint-barthelemy-avec-jeremie-foa\/","title":{"rendered":"209. L\u2019ordinaire de la Saint-Barth\u00e9lemy, avec J\u00e9r\u00e9mie Foa"},"content":{"rendered":"<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/?media_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fparolesdhistoire%2Fcontent.blubrry.com%2Fparolesdhistoire%2Ffoa_ordinaire.mp3&amp;modern=1&amp;podcast_link=https%3A%2F%2Fparolesdhistoire.fr%2Findex.php%2F2021%2F09%2F02%2F209-lordinaire-de-la-saint-barthelemy-avec-jeremie-foa%2F#mode-Light&border-000000&progress-000000\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"165\" frameborder=\"0\" id=\"blubrryplayer-1\" class=\"blubrryplayer\" title=\"Blubrry Podcast Player\"><\/iframe><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/parolesdhistoire\/content.blubrry.com\/parolesdhistoire\/foa_ordinaire.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/?powerpress_pinw=1770-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/parolesdhistoire\/content.blubrry.com\/parolesdhistoire\/foa_ordinaire.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"foa_ordinaire.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">S'abonner :  <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/fr\/podcast\/paroles-dhistoire\/id1376002842?l=en&amp;mt=2&amp;ls=1#episodeGuid=http%3A%2F%2Fparolesdhistoire.fr%2F%3Fp%3D1770\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_itunes\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Apple Podcasts\" rel=\"nofollow\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/57zBA3htpYUB4MJNhhlDnn\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribeonandroid.com\/feeds.audiomeans.fr\/feed\/c3e6abea-2254-416a-b8ef-0619098d0e45.xml\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_android\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Android\" rel=\"nofollow\">Android<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/www.deezer.com\/en\/show\/1000680512\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_deezer\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Deezer\" rel=\"nofollow\">Deezer<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/feeds.audiomeans.fr\/feed\/c3e6abea-2254-416a-b8ef-0619098d0e45.xml\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/index.php\/sabonner\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p><p><strong>L\u2019invit\u00e9\u00a0:<\/strong> J\u00e9r\u00e9mie Foa, ma\u00eetre de conf\u00e9rences \u00e0 Aix-Marseille Universit\u00e9 (laboratoire TELEMMe)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/9782348057885.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-1771 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/9782348057885-205x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"205\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/9782348057885-205x300.jpg 205w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/9782348057885-768x1125.jpg 768w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/9782348057885-699x1024.jpg 699w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/9782348057885.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 205px) 85vw, 205px\" \/><\/a><strong>Le livre\u00a0:<\/strong> <em>Tous ceux qui tombent, Visages du massacre de la Saint-Barth\u00e9l\u00e9my<\/em>, Paris, La d\u00e9couverte, 2021.<\/p>\n<p><strong>La discussion\u00a0:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Une approche de la Saint-Barth\u00e9l\u00e9my non par le haut mais par ses acteurs ordinaires et leurs pratiques (1:30)<\/li>\n<li>La volont\u00e9 de retrouver les victimes, leurs noms, de les faire revenir au jour par l\u2019\u00e9criture, dans la lign\u00e9e de Michelet (5:00)<\/li>\n<li>Une dimension morale dans un travail qui d\u00e9nonce des tueurs et redonne un nom aux personnes massacr\u00e9es (6:40)<\/li>\n<li>Nommer pour ne pas essentialiser \u00ab\u00a0le peuple\u00a0\u00bb ou \u00ab\u00a0les Parisiens\u00a0\u00bb (8:00)<\/li>\n<li>Les tueurs, leur insertion sociale et confessionnelle (10:30)<\/li>\n<li>Le travail dans les archives, au croisement de la m\u00e9thode et du hasard (12:30)<\/li>\n<li>Une arch\u00e9ologie de la Saint-Barth\u00e9lemy est-elle possible\u00a0? (15:00)<\/li>\n<li>La Saint-Barth\u00e9lemy pr\u00e9par\u00e9e sans \u00eatre pr\u00e9m\u00e9dit\u00e9e (17:30)<\/li>\n<li>Un livre travers\u00e9 par les \u00e9chos de violences extr\u00eames plus r\u00e9centes, des guerres mondiales au Rwanda (21:20)<\/li>\n<li><strong><em>Interm\u00e8de musical (25:30)\u00a0:<\/em><\/strong> \u00ab\u00a0Elo Hi (canto nero)\u00a0\u00bb de Goran Bregovic, interpr\u00e9t\u00e9 par Ofra Haza pour la bande originale de <em><a href=\"https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/index.php\/2018\/09\/26\/21-revoir-la-reine-margot-avec-jeremie-foa\/\">La Reine Margot<\/a><\/em> (1994)<\/li>\n<li>Apr\u00e8s l\u2019\u00e9v\u00e9nement\u00a0: le massacre saisi par le droit (27:00)<\/li>\n<li>Les voisins ne sont pas seulement des tueurs (30:45)<\/li>\n<li>L\u2019ordinaire de la Saint-Barth\u00e9lemy, d\u00e9voil\u00e9 par des archives qui n\u2019\u00e9voquent pas directement le massacre (31:45)<\/li>\n<li>Vers une cartographie historique de la Saint-Barth\u00e9lemy, pour prendre le \u00ab\u00a0tournant spatial\u00a0\u00bb des sciences sociales\u00a0? (35:00)<\/li>\n<li>La pr\u00e9sence de la Seine dans le livre, et en filigrane du 17 octobre 1961 (36:30)<\/li>\n<li>L\u2019impunit\u00e9 des tueurs, ins\u00e9r\u00e9s dans les r\u00e9seaux de la Cour (39:45)<\/li>\n<li>Quel dialogue avec l\u2019historiographie am\u00e9ricaine sur ces questions\u00a0? (43:00)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Les r\u00e9f\u00e9rences cit\u00e9es durant l\u2019\u00e9mission\u00a0:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Denis Crouzet, <em>Les guerriers de Dieu, la violence au temps des troubles de religion, vers 1525-vers 1610<\/em>, Seyssel, Champ Vallon, 1990.<\/li>\n<li>Denis Crouzet, <em>Le haut c\u0153ur de Catherine de M\u00e9dicis<\/em>, Paris, Albin Michel, 2005.<\/li>\n<li>H\u00e9l\u00e8ne Dumas, <em>Le G\u00e9nocide au village. Le massacre des Tutsi au Rwanda<\/em>, Paris, Le Seuil, coll. \u00ab L\u2019univers historique \u00bb, 2014.<\/li>\n<li>Nicolas Mariot, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cairn.info\/revue-geneses-2003-4-page-154.htm\">\u00ab\u00a0Faut-il \u00eatre motiv\u00e9 pour tuer ? Sur quelques explications aux violences de guerre\u00a0\u00bb<\/a>, <em>Gen\u00e8ses<\/em>, 2003\/4 (n\u00b053), p. 154-177.<\/li>\n<li>Nicolas Mariot (et al.), <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cairn.info\/revue-agone-2014-1.htm\">\u00ab\u00a0L\u2019ordinaire de la guerre\u00a0\u00bb,<\/a> <em>Agone<\/em>, 2014\/1 (n\u00b0 53)<\/li>\n<li>Philippe Sands, <em>The Ratline. Love, Lies and Justice on the Trail of a Nazi Fugitive<\/em>, Londres, Weidenfeld &amp; Nicolson, 2020.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Les conseils de fin d\u2019\u00e9mission\u00a0:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Karl Jacoby, <em>L\u2019esclave qui devint millionnaire. Les vies extraordinaires de William Ellis<\/em>, Toulouse, Anacharsis, 2018.<\/li>\n<li><em><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/IvTE8zWmivQ?t=235\">Saint-Germain ou la n\u00e9gociation<\/a><\/em>, t\u00e9l\u00e9film de G\u00e9rard Corbiau (2003) d\u2019apr\u00e8s le roman de Francis Walder (1958).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>L\u2019invit\u00e9\u00a0: J\u00e9r\u00e9mie Foa, ma\u00eetre de conf\u00e9rences \u00e0 Aix-Marseille Universit\u00e9 (laboratoire TELEMMe) Le livre\u00a0: Tous ceux qui tombent, Visages du massacre de la Saint-Barth\u00e9l\u00e9my, Paris, La d\u00e9couverte, 2021. La discussion\u00a0: Une approche de la Saint-Barth\u00e9l\u00e9my non par le haut mais par ses acteurs ordinaires et leurs pratiques (1:30) La volont\u00e9 de retrouver les victimes, leurs noms, &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/index.php\/2021\/09\/02\/209-lordinaire-de-la-saint-barthelemy-avec-jeremie-foa\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;209. 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