{"id":2232,"date":"2023-02-20T02:28:54","date_gmt":"2023-02-20T01:28:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/?p=2232"},"modified":"2023-02-18T21:14:19","modified_gmt":"2023-02-18T20:14:19","slug":"277-photos-dauschwitz-avec-tal-bruttmann","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/index.php\/2023\/02\/20\/277-photos-dauschwitz-avec-tal-bruttmann\/","title":{"rendered":"277. Un album d&#8217;Auschwitz, avec Tal Bruttmann"},"content":{"rendered":"<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/?media_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fparolesdhistoire%2Fcontent.blubrry.com%2Fparolesdhistoire%2F277_auschwitz.mp3&amp;modern=1&amp;podcast_link=https%3A%2F%2Fparolesdhistoire.fr%2Findex.php%2F2023%2F02%2F20%2F277-photos-dauschwitz-avec-tal-bruttmann%2F#mode-Light&border-000000&progress-000000\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"165\" frameborder=\"0\" id=\"blubrryplayer-1\" class=\"blubrryplayer\" title=\"Blubrry Podcast Player\"><\/iframe><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/parolesdhistoire\/content.blubrry.com\/parolesdhistoire\/277_auschwitz.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/?powerpress_pinw=2232-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/parolesdhistoire\/content.blubrry.com\/parolesdhistoire\/277_auschwitz.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"277_auschwitz.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">S'abonner :  <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/fr\/podcast\/paroles-dhistoire\/id1376002842?l=en&amp;mt=2&amp;ls=1#episodeGuid=http%3A%2F%2Fparolesdhistoire.fr%2F%3Fp%3D2232\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_itunes\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Apple Podcasts\" rel=\"nofollow\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/57zBA3htpYUB4MJNhhlDnn\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribeonandroid.com\/feeds.audiomeans.fr\/feed\/c3e6abea-2254-416a-b8ef-0619098d0e45.xml\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_android\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Android\" rel=\"nofollow\">Android<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/www.deezer.com\/en\/show\/1000680512\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_deezer\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Deezer\" rel=\"nofollow\">Deezer<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/feeds.audiomeans.fr\/feed\/c3e6abea-2254-416a-b8ef-0619098d0e45.xml\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/index.php\/sabonner\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p><p><strong>L\u2019invit\u00e9\u00a0:<\/strong> Tal Bruttmann, historien<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/149106_couverture_Hres_0.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-2239\" src=\"http:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/149106_couverture_Hres_0-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/149106_couverture_Hres_0-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/149106_couverture_Hres_0-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/149106_couverture_Hres_0-768x765.jpg 768w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/149106_couverture_Hres_0-1024x1019.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/149106_couverture_Hres_0-1200x1195.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/149106_couverture_Hres_0.jpg 2000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 85vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>Le livre\u00a0:<\/strong> Tal Bruttmann, Stefan H\u00f6rdler et Christoph Kreutzm\u00fcller, <em>Un album d&#8217;Auschwitz. Comment les nazis ont photographi\u00e9 leurs crimes<\/em>, Paris, Seuil, 2023.<\/p>\n<p><strong>La discussion\u00a0:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Introduction (00:00)<\/li>\n<li>La d\u00e9couverte de photos en partie in\u00e9dites prises par Zbigniew Leszek Grzywaczewski lors de la r\u00e9volte du ghetto de Varsovie en 1943 (2:30)<\/li>\n<li>Biographie d\u2019un objet: l\u2019album de Lili Jacob (5:00)<\/li>\n<li>Le r\u00f4le clef de Serge Klarsfeld dans sa transformation en document pour l\u2019histoire\u2026 (10:15)<\/li>\n<li>\u2026mais l\u2019absence de regard proprement historien sur des photos utilis\u00e9es comme illustrations, souvent de fa\u00e7on erron\u00e9e ou d\u00e9contextualis\u00e9e (11:45)<\/li>\n<li>Un livre collectif, avec une r\u00e9partition des r\u00f4les et des comp\u00e9tences entre les trois auteurs (15:20)<\/li>\n<li>Les m\u00e9thodes de travail (17:30)<\/li>\n<li>Auschwitz, un lieu qui ne constitue pas un secret (24:00)<\/li>\n<li>Est-ce plus \u00e9prouvant de travailler sur des photos\u00a0? (27:15)<\/li>\n<li>Un album structurellement trompeur sur ce qu\u2019il montre et ne montre pas de l\u2019assassinat des Juifs (28:30)<\/li>\n<li>Discussion de la photo 118 (32:00)<\/li>\n<li>Des photos qui comme la langue nazie m\u00ealent efficacit\u00e9 et euph\u00e9misation (33:00)<\/li>\n<li>Le contexte sp\u00e9cifique du printemps 1944, avec les tensions et contradictions de la politique nazie (36:00)<\/li>\n<li>Les photographes SS de l\u2019album, Walter et Hoffmann (39:00)<\/li>\n<li>Le travail de contextualisation et d\u2019identification: personnes, wagons, convois\u2026 (43:00)<\/li>\n<li>Un album reprenant les codes de l\u2019antis\u00e9mitisme nazi (47:45)<\/li>\n<li>La violence derri\u00e8re l\u2019euph\u00e9misation (49:00)<\/li>\n<li>Le tri et la \u00ab\u00a0valorisation\u00a0\u00bb des \u00ab\u00a0effets\u00a0\u00bb, une partie int\u00e9grante du processus d\u2019assassinat (52:30)<\/li>\n<li>Photographie et \u00ab\u00a0d\u00e9shumanisation\u00a0\u00bb (53:30)<\/li>\n<li>La sp\u00e9cificit\u00e9 irr\u00e9ductible du contexte de cet album: ce ne sont pas des photos g\u00e9n\u00e9riques de la Shoah (57:15)<\/li>\n<li>Contre l\u2019id\u00e9e d\u2019une absence d\u2019images de la Shoah: la profusion des documents iconographiques (1:01:15) parmi lesquels des dessins (1:05:00)<\/li>\n<li>Analyse de la photo 27 (1:10:00)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>L\u2019invit\u00e9\u00a0: Tal Bruttmann, historien Le livre\u00a0: Tal Bruttmann, Stefan H\u00f6rdler et Christoph Kreutzm\u00fcller, Un album d&#8217;Auschwitz. Comment les nazis ont photographi\u00e9 leurs crimes, Paris, Seuil, 2023. La discussion\u00a0: Introduction (00:00) La d\u00e9couverte de photos en partie in\u00e9dites prises par Zbigniew Leszek Grzywaczewski lors de la r\u00e9volte du ghetto de Varsovie en 1943 (2:30) Biographie d\u2019un &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/index.php\/2023\/02\/20\/277-photos-dauschwitz-avec-tal-bruttmann\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;277. 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