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Relire Le Fromage et les vers de Carlo Ginzburg, avec Marie Lezowski et David Domin\u00e9-Cohn"},"content":{"rendered":"<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/?media_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fparolesdhistoire%2Fcontent.blubrry.com%2Fparolesdhistoire%2Fginzburg_fromageetlesvers.mp3&amp;modern=1&amp;podcast_link=https%3A%2F%2Fparolesdhistoire.fr%2Findex.php%2F2019%2F10%2F09%2F76-relire-le-fromage-et-les-vers-de-carlo-ginzburg-avec-marie-lezowski-et-david-domine-cohn%2F#mode-Light&border-000000&progress-000000\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"165\" frameborder=\"0\" id=\"blubrryplayer-1\" class=\"blubrryplayer\" title=\"Blubrry Podcast Player\"><\/iframe><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/parolesdhistoire\/content.blubrry.com\/parolesdhistoire\/ginzburg_fromageetlesvers.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/?powerpress_pinw=722-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/parolesdhistoire\/content.blubrry.com\/parolesdhistoire\/ginzburg_fromageetlesvers.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"ginzburg_fromageetlesvers.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">S'abonner :  <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/fr\/podcast\/paroles-dhistoire\/id1376002842?l=en&amp;mt=2&amp;ls=1#episodeGuid=http%3A%2F%2Fparolesdhistoire.fr%2F%3Fp%3D722\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_itunes\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Apple Podcasts\" rel=\"nofollow\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/57zBA3htpYUB4MJNhhlDnn\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribeonandroid.com\/feeds.audiomeans.fr\/feed\/c3e6abea-2254-416a-b8ef-0619098d0e45.xml\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_android\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Android\" rel=\"nofollow\">Android<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/www.deezer.com\/en\/show\/1000680512\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_deezer\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Deezer\" rel=\"nofollow\">Deezer<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/feeds.audiomeans.fr\/feed\/c3e6abea-2254-416a-b8ef-0619098d0e45.xml\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/index.php\/sabonner\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p><p><strong>Les invit\u00e9-e-s\u00a0:<\/strong> Marie Lezowski (ma\u00eetresse de conf\u00e9rences en histoire moderne \u00e0 l\u2019universit\u00e9 d\u2019Angers), David Domin\u00e9-Cohn (professeur d\u2019histoire et doctorant en histoire m\u00e9di\u00e9vale)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/couv.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-725\" src=\"http:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/couv-300x244.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"244\" srcset=\"https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/couv-300x244.jpg 300w, https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/couv.jpg 648w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 85vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>Le livre\u00a0:<\/strong> Carlo Ginzburg, <em>Le Fromage et les vers. L\u2019univers d\u2019un meunier au XVIe si\u00e8cle<\/em>, Paris, Aubier, 1980 [1976].<\/p>\n<p><strong>La discussion\u00a0: <\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>R\u00e9sum\u00e9 du livre\u00a0: le proc\u00e8s d\u2019inquisition de Domenico Scandella, dit Menocchio, un meunier \u00e0 la cosmogonie originale et contredisant les enseignements de l\u2019\u00c9glise (1\u201945)<\/li>\n<li>La forme originale de l\u2019ouvrage, personnelle, \u00e9clat\u00e9e, suivant la logique du dossier d\u2019inquisition (4\u201945)<\/li>\n<li>La th\u00e8se forte de Ginzburg sur les id\u00e9es de Menocchio n\u00e9es du croisement entre l\u2019imprimerie et un fond de croyances paysannes (6\u201950)<\/li>\n<li>Comment ce livre est devenu un classique de l\u2019historiographie, et comment les invit\u00e9-e-s ont rencontr\u00e9 le livre (8\u201910)<\/li>\n<li>Le contexte d\u2019\u00e9criture du livre, et la figure de Carlo Ginzburg (11\u201930)<\/li>\n<li>Une attention, \u00e0 travers Menocchio, aux domin\u00e9s et aux pers\u00e9cut\u00e9s (14\u201920)<\/li>\n<li>La remise en cause partielle de l\u2019histoire des \u00ab\u00a0mentalit\u00e9s\u00a0\u00bb (17\u201900)<\/li>\n<li>L\u2019influence de Marc Bloch sur Carlo Ginzburg (18\u201920)<\/li>\n<li>Une id\u00e9alisation du monde paysan chez l\u2019auteur (20\u2019)<\/li>\n<li>La m\u00e9thode philologique de Carlo Ginzburg, et sa lecture tr\u00e8s particuli\u00e8re des sources inquisitoriales (21\u201950)<\/li>\n<li>Le travail de Carlo Ginzburg sur les \u00e9carts entre questions des inquisiteurs et r\u00e9ponses de Menocchio (25\u201935)<\/li>\n<li>Les rapports entre Menocchio et ses voisins de village ou son auditoire, en lien avec le r\u00f4le social d\u2019un meunier (29\u201915)<\/li>\n<li>Comment un meunier du Frioul sait-il lire\u00a0? Quels livres, et comment les lit-il\u00a0? (31\u201945)<\/li>\n<li>Pr\u00e9sentation de la <em>microstoria<\/em>, les liens qu\u2019elle fait entre \u00ab\u00a0cas\u00a0\u00bb et contexte, sa capacit\u00e9 \u00e0 \u00ab\u00a0prendre au s\u00e9rieux l\u2019anomalie\u00a0\u00bb (35\u201910)<\/li>\n<li>Menocchio, un personnage dont les conceptions religieuses propres entrent en r\u00e9sonance avec des th\u00e8mes issus de la R\u00e9forme protestante (38\u201915)<\/li>\n<li>La mise en sc\u00e8ne narrative op\u00e9r\u00e9e par Carlo Ginzburg, qui a song\u00e9 \u00e9crire ce livre \u00e0 la fa\u00e7on des <em>Exercices de style<\/em> de Queneau (39\u201945)<\/li>\n<li>Quel regard porter aujourd\u2019hui sur le cas Menocchio\u00a0? (41\u201940)<\/li>\n<li>Un rapprochement entre Menocchio, et Louis-Fran\u00e7ois Pinagot, ce sabotier de l\u2019Orne \u00e9tudi\u00e9 par Alain Corbin\u00a0? (43\u2019)<\/li>\n<li>Un livre admirable mais dont les conclusions sur un \u00ab\u00a0substrat oral\u00a0\u00bb d\u2019une culture paysanne sont fragiles (43\u201945)<\/li>\n<li>La post\u00e9rit\u00e9 du livre, pour l\u2019\u00e9tude des croyances \u00ab\u00a0hors normes\u00a0\u00bb (46\u201930)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Les conseils de lecture\u00a0:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Samir Boumediene, <em>La colonisation du savoir. Une histoire des plantes m\u00e9dicinales du \u00ab Nouveau Monde \u00bb (1492-1750)<\/em>, Vaulx-en-Velin, \u00c9ditions des Mondes \u00e0 faire, 2016.<\/li>\n<li>Carlo Ginzburg, \u00ab Signes, traces, pistes : racines d\u2019un paradigme de l\u2019indice \u00bb, <em>Le D\u00e9bat<\/em>, 6, 1980, p. 3-44.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Les r\u00e9f\u00e9rences bibliographiques (par ordre alphab\u00e9tique)\u00a0:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Patrick Boucheron, \u00ab\u00a0Pr\u00e9face\u00a0\u00bb, <em>Le Fromage et les vers<\/em>, Paris, Flammarion, coll. Champs, 2018.<\/li>\n<li>Jean Boutier et Philippe Boutry, \u00ab L\u2019invention historiographique. Autour du dossier Menocchio \u00bb, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/journals.openedition.org\/enquete\/473\">Enqu\u00eate<\/a><\/em>, 3, 1996, mis en ligne le 11 juillet 2013.<\/li>\n<li>Alain Corbin, <em>Le monde retrouv\u00e9 de Louis-Fran\u00e7ois Pinagot, sur les traces d\u2019un inconnu, 1798-1876<\/em>, Paris, Flammarion, 1998<\/li>\n<li>Andrea Del Col, ed., <em>Domenico Scandella detto Menocchio : i processi dell\u2019Inquisizione (1583-1599)<\/em>, Pordenone, Edizioni Biblioteca dell\u2019Immagine, 1990.<\/li>\n<li>Lucien Febvre, <em>Le Probl\u00e8me de l\u2019Incroyance au XVIe si\u00e8cle. La Religion de Rabelais<\/em>, Paris, Albin Michel, coll. \u00ab L\u2019\u00e9volution de l\u2019Humanit\u00e9 \u00bb, 1942\u00a0; <em>Autour de l\u2019Heptam\u00e9ron. Amour sacr\u00e9, Amour profane<\/em>, Paris, Gallimard, 1944.<\/li>\n<li>Carlo Ginzburg, <em>Les Batailles nocturnes<\/em>, Lagrasse, Verdier, 1980 [1966]\u00a0; <em>Le fil et les traces. Vrai faux fictif<\/em>, Lagrasse, Verdier, 2010 [2006].<\/li>\n<li>Emmanuel Le Roy Ladurie, <em>Le Carnaval de Romans. De la Chandeleur au mercredi des Cendres : 1579-1580<\/em>, Paris, Gallimard, 1979.<\/li>\n<li>Robert Muchembled, <em>La Sorci\u00e8re au village, XVe-XVIIIe si\u00e8cle<\/em>, Paris, Gallimard, 1979.<\/li>\n<li>Jacques Revel (dir.), <em>Jeux d&#8217;\u00e9chelles. La micro-analyse \u00e0 l&#8217;exp\u00e9rience<\/em>, Paris, Gallimard et Le Seuil, coll. Hautes \u00c9tudes, 1996<\/li>\n<li>Martin Rueff, \u00ab\u00a0L&#8217;historien et les noms propres\u00a0\u00bb, <em>Critique<\/em>, 2011\/6-7 (n\u00b0 769-770), p. 514-532.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Les invit\u00e9-e-s\u00a0: Marie Lezowski (ma\u00eetresse de conf\u00e9rences en histoire moderne \u00e0 l\u2019universit\u00e9 d\u2019Angers), David Domin\u00e9-Cohn (professeur d\u2019histoire et doctorant en histoire m\u00e9di\u00e9vale) Le livre\u00a0: Carlo Ginzburg, Le Fromage et les vers. L\u2019univers d\u2019un meunier au XVIe si\u00e8cle, Paris, Aubier, 1980 [1976]. La discussion\u00a0: R\u00e9sum\u00e9 du livre\u00a0: le proc\u00e8s d\u2019inquisition de Domenico Scandella, dit Menocchio, un &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/parolesdhistoire.fr\/index.php\/2019\/10\/09\/76-relire-le-fromage-et-les-vers-de-carlo-ginzburg-avec-marie-lezowski-et-david-domine-cohn\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;76. 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